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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131013" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131013">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Main weekly meeting for <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1172">@WG-async-foundations</span> (not book)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131055" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131055">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Update: Niko did a heroic effort yesterday with the PRs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131069">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>At this point <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AAsyncAwait-Blocking" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AAsyncAwait-Blocking">all blocking issues</a> have pending PRs, afaik</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131074">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Most/all blocker issues seem to have PRs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131083" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131083">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>But maybe we should look for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AA-async-await+-label%3AAsyncAwait-Blocking+-label%3AAsyncAwait-Deferred++-label%3AAsyncAwait-Unclear" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AA-async-await+-label%3AAsyncAwait-Blocking+-label%3AAsyncAwait-Deferred++-label%3AAsyncAwait-Unclear">uncategorized bugs</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131169">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see 5</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131180" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131180">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:02)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Provide map_ok and map_err method for Poll&lt;Option&lt;Result&lt;T, E&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63514" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63514">#63514</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131200" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131200">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems not really related to this WG per se</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131204" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131204">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>libs feature; move on <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131225" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131225">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess tag as deferred?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131236" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131236">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>yea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131242">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:03)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Async fn does not compile if lifetime does not appear in bounds (sometimes) <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63033" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63033">#63033</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131273" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131273">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe one of your PRs fixes it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131341" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131341">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>might be good to check after they have merged</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131376" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131376">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah maybe, not sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131381" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131381">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I agree with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119235">@David Tolnay</span> that this <em>ought</em> to compile</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131410" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131410">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure if I'd call it a blocker per se</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131424" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131424">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's going to be time for us to start doing more prioritization past blocking soon though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131513" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131513">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think my PRs fix it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131521">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I'll mark it as blocking for now? Not sure how to mark it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131547">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll mark it s as unclear for now, I'd like to get through these and discuss the overall plan</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131598" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131598">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>sgtm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131647">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:08)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Lifetime is unnecessarily captured in nested functions returning impl trait via async <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63032" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63032">#63032</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131657">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that that same bug where we oveapproximate?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131722" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131722">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, I don't think so, I'm not entirely sure what's going on here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131740">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Self-assign to investigate perhaps?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131805" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131805">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131822">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think it's really an <em>async await</em> bug per se</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131838" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131838">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>most likely</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131840" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131840">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>but anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131853" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131853">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Aight; assigning you then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131859">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>or you can :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131899">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:11)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Async fn doubles argument size <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/62958" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/62958">#62958</a></p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131917">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks like <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116883">@tmandry</span> left a few comments; It hink this is clearly not blocking</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131927" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131927">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Agree</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173131999" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173131999">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Though we should look at prioritization post landing the stabilization PR)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132009" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132009">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>confirm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132012">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:12)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Pretty-printing support for Rust generators <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/62572" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/62572">#62572</a></p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132040">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>similarly, clearly a "defer"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132048" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132048">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like an internals issue; yeah defer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132058" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132058">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>we don't really have anyone "owning" this  debugger code, sadly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132072" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132072">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe tmandry should?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132099" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132099">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>there was somebody doing some work on it recently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132103" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132103">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we can rope them in :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132111" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132111">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, that's it for uncategorized things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132176" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132176">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>(for some weird reason,  async fn inside fn fails to parse <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51933" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51933">#51933</a>  always shows up in the gh search results even though it's closed, do others see that?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132190">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>(yep; idk what's up with that either)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132199" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132199">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>gh bug I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132204" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132204">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, so, the main topic I guess is stabilization</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132206">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>We have two -Unclear issues; <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/labels/AsyncAwait-Unclear" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/labels/AsyncAwait-Unclear">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/labels/AsyncAwait-Unclear</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132218" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132218">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>one of which we just talked about</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132219" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132219">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="127859">@Taylor Cramer</span>, are you here?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132272" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132272">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah, yes, we do. the other unclear is </p>
<blockquote>
<p>type inference doesn't work in async fn that return <code>Box&lt;dyn SomeTrait&gt;</code> <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60424" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60424">#60424</a> </p>
</blockquote>
<p>I've not had time to do much investigation there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132281" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132281">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>though it was on my list of "things to return to"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132348">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's probably one of those that we should focus on post removing the gate?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132425" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132425">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I believe so</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132458" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132458">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Next week might be a good time to do that triage.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132523">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yep. I won't be able to make this meeting next week owing to RustConf -- I'll be in PDX and be pretty busy on Tuesday :(</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132575" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132575">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Based on the conversation from <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/63209" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/63209">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/63209</a>, it seems like the most likely outcome is:</p>
<ul>
<li>We stabilize on nightly soon </li>
<li>We ship in 1.39</li>
</ul>
<p>In order to ship in 1.38, we'd have to beta backport, and I suspect there are too many outstanding PRs for that to be worthwhile.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132680" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132680">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>(The release team has a fairly straightforward unanimous consensus against beta backporting stabilizations.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132686" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132686">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, I saw that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132708">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am disappointed because I really wanted to make 1.38, but I admit I feel better with having some time for the code to "bake" on nightly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132714" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132714">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>What would be _soon_?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132731">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was hoping we can land the stabilization PR this week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132736" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132736">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="215333">@Florian Gilcher</span> basically the current set of PRs I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Taylor Cramer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132740">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, sorry, I have a bit high latency at the moment but am here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132752" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132752">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>which are either r+ed or near that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132770" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132770">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>but bors was difficult yesterday...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132771" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132771">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's a PR disaster, everyone was blogging this month in anticipation for the beta. I agree with the technical assessment, though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132843" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132843">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>So getting it out of the feature gate towards RustConf would be a good thing.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132850" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132850">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think being able to say "async-await has been stabilized" is still quite decent</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Taylor Cramer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132863">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>The release team has a fairly straightforward unanimous consensus against beta backporting stabilizations.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Without taking a personal position here, is there a similar consensus against delaying the branching of beta by a week?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132865" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132865">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes (<span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> )</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132906">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="127859">@Taylor Cramer</span> there's no such consensus in the team but <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> wasn't too happy about it when I asked</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132927" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132927">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="215333">@Florian Gilcher</span>  the only thing I can promise is to prioritize async/await PRs over all else (within reason... critical infra stuff...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173132937" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173132937">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>When they all land I will rebase my PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133002" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133002">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Where does one view the queue these days?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133010" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133010">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <a href="https://buildbot2.rust-lang.org/homu/queue/rust" target="_blank" title="https://buildbot2.rust-lang.org/homu/queue/rust">https://buildbot2.rust-lang.org/homu/queue/rust</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133018" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133018">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, same place</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133030" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133030">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/63376" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/63376">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/63376</a> is the "long pole in the tent" I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133039" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133039">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>in that it's not yet r+'d</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133074">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>  yeah good point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133080">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span>  how do I "retry" a crater run?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133085" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133085">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I want to bump that PR above another one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133153" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133153">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:26)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Without taking a personal position here, is there a similar consensus against delaying the branching of beta by a week?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>well, delaying beta or backporting is basically the same thing, and with a beta delay there are issues like delaying the bootstrap bump and possibly broken tools</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133181">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>if y'all want to delay beta it's better to just backport the whole thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133264" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133264">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd like to focus on getting things landed on nightly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133275">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I (personally) think that's the most important thing at this stage</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133291" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133291">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I basically agree very strongly with the sentiment in:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>One thing I noticed is that a lot of the bugs in question were filed relatively recently (within the last week or two, and, in the case of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63388" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63388">#63388</a>, just a few days ago). This makes me a bit nervous that we may see some more bugs getting filed once things become stable and we get more attention. I would be very happy if we only have to fix those bugs on nightly, without the added pressure of beta backports.</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133293" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133293">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>by the way beta already branched off, so the only option if you want is to backport, and you still have time to decide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133352" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133352">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133395" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133395">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I guess the question is "what comes after stabilization", and maybe we'll discuss that next time? I have to run in a few minutes, I have back-to-back meetings today :(</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133408">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are a few unclear issues, I can try to do a bit of digging there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133433" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133433">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think we pretty clearly are going to want to set some "next" milestone -- i.e., we've still got "quality of life" things to fix</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133559">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think issues can be roughly categorized as:</p>
<p>1. Fixing language bugs (ICEs, type inference not working...)<br>
2. Improving diagnostics<br>
3. Generator optimizations</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Taylor Cramer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133683">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>There're also a bunch of places where (1) and (2) overlap, where code <em>should</em> compile, but there's a relatively easy workaround that is completely unintuitive based on the bogus error message we provide.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173133903" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173133903">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>While I'm seriously grumpy about the whole situation from a marketing perspective, I'd prefer to keep our pace, cut our losses and review later and deliver a good compiler over all.</p>



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<p>If we delay beta now, rush all the patches in and run into a quality problem down the road, we have _two_ marketing problems.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173134010" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173134010">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="215333">@Florian Gilcher</span> fwiw; I might be inside a bubble, but reddit at least showed some understanding for our plight <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173134065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173134065">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>(whereas I expected my head to be bitten off...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173134088" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173134088">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> I wouldn't have expected that, but it would have been such a good positive signal for the summer.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173134127" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173134127">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>(context: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/cpcn22/updating_to_asyncawait/" target="_blank" title="https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/cpcn22/updating_to_asyncawait/">https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/cpcn22/updating_to_asyncawait/</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173134378" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173134378">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Sorry, I had to go AFK, local emergency -- will be back in an hour or two)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173135237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173135237">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="127859">@Taylor Cramer</span>  btw, general note re. <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/63512#issuecomment-520937296" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/63512#issuecomment-520937296">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/63512#issuecomment-520937296</a> -- T-libs folks have said that it is OK to land small things as unstable without a t-libs member reviewing; they will review on stabilization</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173135261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173135261">(Aug 13 2019 at 17:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>so e.g. if two people agree (e.g. reviewer + author) then it's fine to land</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173140407" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Taylor Cramer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173140407">(Aug 13 2019 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah, good to know</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173140411" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Taylor Cramer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173140411">(Aug 13 2019 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that written down somewhere?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173140467" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Taylor Cramer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173140467">(Aug 13 2019 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>(<span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> )</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173140505" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173140505">(Aug 13 2019 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="127859">@Taylor Cramer</span>  mostly in conversations with libs members but iirc it was written somewhere... let me see if I can remember</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173140842" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173140842">(Aug 13 2019 at 18:56)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="127859">@Taylor Cramer</span> here: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/62596#issuecomment-511865847" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/62596#issuecomment-511865847">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/62596#issuecomment-511865847</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173141366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Taylor Cramer <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173141366">(Aug 13 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>ty ty</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173141523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173141523">(Aug 13 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>np <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173193096" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173193096">(Aug 14 2019 at 11:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>not that this is a place anyone will ever find in the future^^</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173203226" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173203226">(Aug 14 2019 at 13:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120791">@RalfJ</span>  we should maybe add a page re. the standard libs development in the rustc guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173203243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173203243">(Aug 14 2019 at 13:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> Agree with your assessment in <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63033#issuecomment-521234955" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63033#issuecomment-521234955">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63033#issuecomment-521234955</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.08.13/near/173203342" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E08.2E13.html#173203342">(Aug 14 2019 at 13:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>in particular this seems like a corner case and it would be good to be prudent re. complicating the inference algorithm.</p>



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